Fooey Grass

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I’ve never tried it, and I don’t intend to–although, it might be worth it to tweak animal-rights fanatics. Chicago, however, is certainly not pro-choice when it comes to what you can and can’t eat.

Animal rights activists say the process is extremely painful for the birds, even if its not obvious.

Animals like ducks arent able to express the pain and suffering like a dog or cat or a human being, Katz said. They suffer in silence. The extreme overweight, enlarged liver all cause extreme discomfort on the inside. One can get a feel just from gastric indigestion just from eating a little too much. You can imagine what they feel when theyre stuffed so much that they vomit it back up and end up dying.

It’s the babies that can’t feel anything when we kill them. And we don’t even feed them extra when we do it!

Once again, I reiterate that I will support animal rights when human rights are secured. Okay, I won’t, really, but do we really think that these logic-impaired crazies [that’s the politically-correct term, I think] are going to hold humans higher than animals?

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13 thoughts on “Fooey Grass

  1. As you might have guessed, I am schocked by this boycott of French products. Anyway, next time I eat foie gras, I will enjoy it even more, knowing it annoys this kind of people.

    PS: for foie gras: always on toasted bread, with red wine.

  2. What they do to birds to create foie gras is insulting to the God that created them if you ask me. I wouldn’t eat it even if I liked liver (which I don’t so no big deal there).

    Short of sanctioning all the views of groups we disagree with, we should not hesitate to do the right thing when we learn information that makes it seem right to do so.

    To do otherwise is to sanction cruelty to animals in spite of people. Which is not cool to say the least. If you disagree with the people, don’t make good causes suffer just because there are idiots involved in them.

  3. David, I also disagree with the raising of animals in a manner which causes them unnatural pain and discomfort.

    But I can not support the efforts of animal rights groups which seek to ban all use of animals for the greater benefit of mankind.

    In the article, chef Rick Tramonto says what needs to be said: Im sure theyre going to take it and run with it. Theyll go after veal and lobsters and get to ban all of it until were all vegetarians.

  4. The real problem here, as always, is one of elevating animals to the same level as humans. This is where society seems to be headed and it’s wrong. When humans are presumed to be nothing more than animals, we have real problems with what God has clearly told us.

  5. Lot of good points in the comments above.

    I can be against Foie Gras, but also be against recognition of animals as equals to humans and the other excesses of the animal rights crowd.

    But here’s the thing about the hardcore animal rights folks: by trying to turn support for issues like Foie Gras into a smorgasbord (sorry) of other issues, they undermine their own efforts on Foie Gras, which would otherwise garner widespread support.

    For what it’s worth, I find the relationship between pets and their owners to be a reminder of our own dependence on God and how well he takes care of us. I think we are, in a way, gods to our pets, but any pet owner knows how difficult that is and how incomplete we are at this task. Just a reminder of who are master is and how kindly he treats us though we don’t deserve it.

  6. I am all for protecting the environment agaisnt real dangers, and I have already expressed this point of view here, but I am really uncomfortable with the extreme “animal rights” (???) speech. It seems to me it is purely disproportionate and way too sentimentalist. I am sure there are many poor people in Chicago who would like to get such attention. How can you care about ducks and goose when millions and millions people do not have access to education or medical treatments and when our societies kill babies in the wombs of their mothers?

    BTW, if we want to talk about cruel treatments of animals, I’d better be an overfed duck running a field of France than one of the chicken (for exemple) we eat every day: do you have any idea of how those animals are raised? They just never see the light, live surrounded by thousands other chicken and, when you think of it, they’ are over-fed too. Now, I have never heard anyone advocating a boycott of chicken meat. Same thing for hunting and fishing: there is now way to justify them if you adopt this mentality (nobody fishes or hunts to get food today in our countries).
    Lets’ be serious: civilization implies and necessitates dominance of man over nature. European civilization (the cradle of America)only developed in the Middle Ages because countries like France, England or Germany cut more than half of their trees, thus gaining more fields, then more food, then more people, then more economic development, etc, etc.
    I am sorry, but there comes a point when you need to choose between the large forest and the cathedral, and the guy how can not cut enough trees will just never build a cathedral.

  7. J.M.
    You hit a couple of my hot buttons today.
    😉

    1. The chicken rights folks over here are constatly after Tyson Chicken for the reasons you mention. So much so that it has lost it’s newsworthiness.

    2. As far as education, it isn’t kept from anyone. Legal resident or not. All kids have to do is just show up at the school. The problem is the quality of education they get, or rather, don’t get.

    In California we have a lawsuit that includes, for example, a Hispanic highschool student who wasn’t going to graduate because she can’t pass basic English. She is complaining that she can’t become a nurse without a highschool diploma. Just not sure what nursing college she will graduate from if she can’t handle a basic English exam.

    At this point, the courts have judged the graduation exams in California unconstitutional. (The appeals are just beginning.)

    3. Basic Medical care here is very much like education. All one has to do is show up at the local city/county hospital emergency room. Whether one can afford it or not. The local community picks up the tab for those who don’t pay.

    What we don’t have is free access to medical specialists, especially for elective procedures. But we are working on it.

    The really scary/sad thing is all the efforts to define abortion as basic medical care. These efforts include sex change procedures, as well as any number of other elective procedures.

    {sigh}

  8. Lawrence,

    I’ve talked about poor people in Chicago (I am sure there are some of them), but when I mentioned lack of education and medical treatments, I was not thinking about the USA but about what’s happening in too many other countries.

    PS:”At this point, the courts have judged the graduation exams in California unconstitutional. (The appeals are just beginning.)”
    unconstitutional? why, how?

    PSS: concerning the “poor” in America, it is, of course, an expression we need to use carefully. I’m sorry, but there are no “real” poor in the USA or, for that matter, Europe. Just ask an African what he thinks of it.

  9. Very True, J.M.
    Wasn’t trying to sharp-shoot, just commiserate.

    As far as the court judgement, you ask “Why”? and “How”?

    This is the brief answer: The judge says that the graduation exams unfairly discriminate against students who can’t pass them.

    If you can fathom that logic,..

    My opinion is a senile and/or an insane judge.

  10. I have a degree in Poultry Science (yes, such a thing exists), and I work for a, shall we say, very large company that makes its money from chickens (and cows and pigs). I’ve had lesson upon lesson of poultry nutrition, physiology, and husbandry. Let’s get one thing straight about the ducks and the chickens:
    Birds are fragile animals, and these are no exception. Send a child running and screaming though a house of 30,000 birds and you can expect at least a couple to have died from the stress. If the force feeding had as deleterious an effect as is claimed, the birds would not live long enough to deposit all the fat. I’m neither defending nor condemning the practice, but those are the facts.
    With the chickens, this is doubly so. If the conditions in modern poultry houses were as terrible as claimed, they simply would not convert feed efficiently due to stress. They also would be more susceptible to disease, and when that many birds live so closely together, one disease can be catastrophic. Disregarding the humane treatment of the animals (which, it may surprise many of you, is a top priority of the growers I have met), it is in no one’s best interest, financial or otherwise, to subject these animals to treatment that places any harmful stress on them.
    As a Christian, I am appalled at this culture’s high regard of animals as equals to man. We are the crown of creation, originally created in the image of God. Last I checked, Christ didn’t come as an animal to redeem animals; He came as a man to redeem man. When we have men for whom the very Son of God suffered and died starving around the world and living in abject squallor, we should be ashamed that we are spending time and money on such trivia. We battle to be first to claim some new “animals’ right” and in the meantime we neglect that there are countries today that haven’t had a meaningful government in decades. I say we take the liver and send the rest of the bird to someone who needs it!

    BTW: I tried to post once already but my post was marked as spam due to the domain of my blog. To find it, click “Hoc Est Verum” in the blogroll.

  11. Well, I think that everything was said, more or less. I will certainly continue to eat foie gras (as far as my budget allows)and knowing it annoys some people will make it even more enjoyable (especially with a good glass of wine: that, too, annoys some people)

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